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		<title>By: Edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please forgive me, but this is the first time for me to try to get the attention of public services, which has the facility to warn the online poker players. The reason is quite urgent to warn the online poker players about the dangers of being cheated while playing for money on Internet poker sites. These sites are an invisible haven for criminal activities. The criminal activities at online poker sites, once opened up, will make the following late famous American and Canadian fraud cases of Bernard L. Madoff and Earl Jones, appear as just a small nursery rhyme.

Explanation in simple language:
Computers don’t pick cards by themselves, it takes man-made software to pick the cards. Therefore the software can be altered by the software tech, to deliver the cards, he or she wants. The systems to pick cards is called RNG (Random Number Generator).

Plus more: To move the cards from the RNG to the tables, require more man-made software. By hacking or programming into the software the following simple open “if” “then” “else” statement would make the on duty staff tech in control of cards and wealth. Also with the ability to program, or hack, the event can be camouflaged within the computer’s logs so it cannot be discovered.

STATEMENT;
{
$input-from-computer-tech-on-duty = /enter table number;
$input_from_F10_key = /enter what card is required to complete your hand;
if $card from RNG equals $inputfromF10key;
then “sent to the table at $input-from-computer-tech-on-duty;”
else “delete and draw another card from the RNG”;
}
END;

Following, another prime example of card tampering. By playing on site, your IP address is submitted to the server. If any slight problems arise between player and site. The site can blackball the player and just deliver the lower end cards to the player. After not receiving playable cards to play, the player is soon eliminated because of the increasing blinds. Below is somewhat of an illustration of this happening.

Background of games played;
Between two players, playing 10 separate 90 player’s tournaments for money from the same IP address, which is recorded by the popular poker site.
Total number of single cards received as “pocket cards” from the server during the 20 games of the tournaments = 2236 single cards.
Following in rank, is the percentage of each individual card received.
2 = 229 times 10.27% of the total
7 = 192 times 8.58% of the total
8 = 184 times 8.24% of the total
Q = 180 times 8.07% of the total
T = 174 times 7.78% of the total
K = 168 times 7.51% of the total
5 = 167 times 7.46% of the total
6 = 166 times 7.42% of the total
A = 165 times 7.37% of the total
3 = 163 times 7.28% of the total
4 = 161 times 7.20% of the total
J = 146 times 6.52% of the total
9 = 141 times 6.30% of the total

The average percentage is 100%/13 cards (1 suit) = 7.69% 

Question, if the RNG is as random as advertised, then why not a more even percentage?

It my opinion Queens where received at a higher rate than considered normal, but Queens don’t beat Kings and Aces. In fact this could be a trap. The higher cards (Aces, Kings) where delivered to the accomplices or BOT of the tech at a workstation. 

The on duty staff tech sitting at his or her workstation, can download a BOT (poker playing robot software) from the Internet, enter it into an on site poker game. And by sitting at the workstation, using a hand held device like a Blackberry, controlling the BOT. The tech can supply the cards to BOT, the BOT plays the hand, making several times more money than his or her salary each day.

Another options; By downloading 700 BOTs from the Internet, one could setup 100 tables with 7 BOTs per table, with two seats open for alive cash poker playing customers. By using “Cold Decks” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_deck) the two cash customers at each table, could be cleaned out in quick fashion. 

As long as man-made software is used to make or deliver playing cards for poker games, there is a strong opportunity for workers within the site to change, hack or program the software to suit their own needs. This is done without public or company knowledge. Plus, this can also be done “out of sight.” 

If an online poker player losses a poker pot or hand, will only consider having bad luck. And does not realize, the hand could have been manufactured back stage for the player. A perfect crime.

With the availability of OCR, (optical character recognition) which is the backbone for the BOTs. BOTs are becoming quite popular. There appears there is no real dangers , playing against BOTs. Some play real good and will even bluff. It would not be surprising to find in a 9 handed game, 7 
are BOTs and 2 are real alive players.  

The next step that is now in the making, software to be able to read your opponent’s pocket cards. The champion poker player today, is not from the old west saloon type days and a deck of Bee cards, but who can make the best software.   

My question which I’m looking for an answer too. What are you doing or how are you protecting the poker public from these inevitable criminal activities within the online poker sites?
You can’t beat a real deck of cards and real players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please forgive me, but this is the first time for me to try to get the attention of public services, which has the facility to warn the online poker players. The reason is quite urgent to warn the online poker players about the dangers of being cheated while playing for money on Internet poker sites. These sites are an invisible haven for criminal activities. The criminal activities at online poker sites, once opened up, will make the following late famous American and Canadian fraud cases of Bernard L. Madoff and Earl Jones, appear as just a small nursery rhyme.</p>
<p>Explanation in simple language:<br />
Computers don’t pick cards by themselves, it takes man-made software to pick the cards. Therefore the software can be altered by the software tech, to deliver the cards, he or she wants. The systems to pick cards is called RNG (Random Number Generator).</p>
<p>Plus more: To move the cards from the RNG to the tables, require more man-made software. By hacking or programming into the software the following simple open “if” “then” “else” statement would make the on duty staff tech in control of cards and wealth. Also with the ability to program, or hack, the event can be camouflaged within the computer’s logs so it cannot be discovered.</p>
<p>STATEMENT;<br />
{<br />
$input-from-computer-tech-on-duty = /enter table number;<br />
$input_from_F10_key = /enter what card is required to complete your hand;<br />
if $card from RNG equals $inputfromF10key;<br />
then “sent to the table at $input-from-computer-tech-on-duty;”<br />
else “delete and draw another card from the RNG”;<br />
}<br />
END;</p>
<p>Following, another prime example of card tampering. By playing on site, your IP address is submitted to the server. If any slight problems arise between player and site. The site can blackball the player and just deliver the lower end cards to the player. After not receiving playable cards to play, the player is soon eliminated because of the increasing blinds. Below is somewhat of an illustration of this happening.</p>
<p>Background of games played;<br />
Between two players, playing 10 separate 90 player’s tournaments for money from the same IP address, which is recorded by the popular poker site.<br />
Total number of single cards received as “pocket cards” from the server during the 20 games of the tournaments = 2236 single cards.<br />
Following in rank, is the percentage of each individual card received.<br />
2 = 229 times 10.27% of the total<br />
7 = 192 times 8.58% of the total<br />
8 = 184 times 8.24% of the total<br />
Q = 180 times 8.07% of the total<br />
T = 174 times 7.78% of the total<br />
K = 168 times 7.51% of the total<br />
5 = 167 times 7.46% of the total<br />
6 = 166 times 7.42% of the total<br />
A = 165 times 7.37% of the total<br />
3 = 163 times 7.28% of the total<br />
4 = 161 times 7.20% of the total<br />
J = 146 times 6.52% of the total<br />
9 = 141 times 6.30% of the total</p>
<p>The average percentage is 100%/13 cards (1 suit) = 7.69% </p>
<p>Question, if the RNG is as random as advertised, then why not a more even percentage?</p>
<p>It my opinion Queens where received at a higher rate than considered normal, but Queens don’t beat Kings and Aces. In fact this could be a trap. The higher cards (Aces, Kings) where delivered to the accomplices or BOT of the tech at a workstation. </p>
<p>The on duty staff tech sitting at his or her workstation, can download a BOT (poker playing robot software) from the Internet, enter it into an on site poker game. And by sitting at the workstation, using a hand held device like a Blackberry, controlling the BOT. The tech can supply the cards to BOT, the BOT plays the hand, making several times more money than his or her salary each day.</p>
<p>Another options; By downloading 700 BOTs from the Internet, one could setup 100 tables with 7 BOTs per table, with two seats open for alive cash poker playing customers. By using “Cold Decks” (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_deck" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_deck</a>) the two cash customers at each table, could be cleaned out in quick fashion. </p>
<p>As long as man-made software is used to make or deliver playing cards for poker games, there is a strong opportunity for workers within the site to change, hack or program the software to suit their own needs. This is done without public or company knowledge. Plus, this can also be done “out of sight.” </p>
<p>If an online poker player losses a poker pot or hand, will only consider having bad luck. And does not realize, the hand could have been manufactured back stage for the player. A perfect crime.</p>
<p>With the availability of OCR, (optical character recognition) which is the backbone for the BOTs. BOTs are becoming quite popular. There appears there is no real dangers , playing against BOTs. Some play real good and will even bluff. It would not be surprising to find in a 9 handed game, 7<br />
are BOTs and 2 are real alive players.  </p>
<p>The next step that is now in the making, software to be able to read your opponent’s pocket cards. The champion poker player today, is not from the old west saloon type days and a deck of Bee cards, but who can make the best software.   </p>
<p>My question which I’m looking for an answer too. What are you doing or how are you protecting the poker public from these inevitable criminal activities within the online poker sites?<br />
You can’t beat a real deck of cards and real players.</p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bodog is now up to two months for payment to hit your doorstep!!!

they have always been slow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bodog is now up to two months for payment to hit your doorstep!!!</p>
<p>they have always been slow.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.compareonlinepoker.com/bodog-vs-sportsbook-poker/comment-page-1/#comment-943</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 13:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can you not mention the fact that bodog seems to always be offering a 100% reload bonus?  On top of that, the bonuses are quite easy to clear, even playing at micro-limit ring games...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can you not mention the fact that bodog seems to always be offering a 100% reload bonus?  On top of that, the bonuses are quite easy to clear, even playing at micro-limit ring games&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 22:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just starting playing on  BODOG and like it  alot more then sportsbook poker! Some of the transactions  looked  very fishy  to me. .For  instance  i made deposits and when i looked over  my transactions the same deposit  was made again minutes later  and didnt show in my account!As far as making withdrawls WHAT A JOKE!! one took over 3 weeks and i&#039;m still waiting for another one which has  been 44 days  so far! So i started  playing on BODOG!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just starting playing on  BODOG and like it  alot more then sportsbook poker! Some of the transactions  looked  very fishy  to me. .For  instance  i made deposits and when i looked over  my transactions the same deposit  was made again minutes later  and didnt show in my account!As far as making withdrawls WHAT A JOKE!! one took over 3 weeks and i&#8217;m still waiting for another one which has  been 44 days  so far! So i started  playing on BODOG!</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will take sportsbook over bodog any day. HERE are my reasons. 1 I have played at bodog for a year and a half and I discovered 4 Patterens of cards that come out on the board.Sixes and Jacks ,Threes and eights,sevens and fours,and four of the following 2,4,6,8,10. Also 4 cards of a flush or straight on the board. 2 Bodog has no imagination in tounament play. They do not have BOUNTY tournaments. And last but not least,bodog offered a 100% bonus for the month of march but you only had 30 days to earn the bonus, that was bod enough but you could only earn max 1 point per raked hand even if the rake was 3 $, sportsbook gives you exactly what the rake is. Thank you Frank</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will take sportsbook over bodog any day. HERE are my reasons. 1 I have played at bodog for a year and a half and I discovered 4 Patterens of cards that come out on the board.Sixes and Jacks ,Threes and eights,sevens and fours,and four of the following 2,4,6,8,10. Also 4 cards of a flush or straight on the board. 2 Bodog has no imagination in tounament play. They do not have BOUNTY tournaments. And last but not least,bodog offered a 100% bonus for the month of march but you only had 30 days to earn the bonus, that was bod enough but you could only earn max 1 point per raked hand even if the rake was 3 $, sportsbook gives you exactly what the rake is. Thank you Frank</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce, that would drive me totally insane.  Make sure you download the newest version of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kickasspoker.com/poker-rooms/play-now/bodog-poker.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Bodog Poker Software&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;... (the one I have screenshots of in this article).  To me, it seemed to run smoother and with less strain on the PC to maintain the older more bulky bodog software.

Also, and this was a tip a KAP Poker League Member told me... 

&lt;blockquote&gt;click the &#039;Show Registering&#039; tab in the tournament lobby.  This will only refresh the registering tournaments and not every tournament in progress.  This really seemed to speed up my bodog software.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce, that would drive me totally insane.  Make sure you download the newest version of the <a href="http://www.kickasspoker.com/poker-rooms/play-now/bodog-poker.htm" rel="nofollow"><strong>Bodog Poker Software</strong></a>&#8230; (the one I have screenshots of in this article).  To me, it seemed to run smoother and with less strain on the PC to maintain the older more bulky bodog software.</p>
<p>Also, and this was a tip a KAP Poker League Member told me&#8230; </p>
<blockquote><p>click the &#8216;Show Registering&#8217; tab in the tournament lobby.  This will only refresh the registering tournaments and not every tournament in progress.  This really seemed to speed up my bodog software.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 04:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Bodog a lot.  It was the first site that I used real money on.  I can&#039;t compare to sportsbook, but I do play at Full tilt and poker Stars.  Full tilt to me seems to have an unusually large number of bad beats.  I&#039;ve received and delivered them at what seems to me to be clearly above the expected percentages.  Poker stars is fine.  I&#039;m not overly impressed with the set-up or software, but my wifi handles it just fine and the &quot;poker&quot; has &quot;added up&quot; as would normally be expected.  

That leads to my current problem with Bodog.  Their software is the best IMO, but it really bogs down in a MAJOR way.  My wifi just can&#039;t handle it (I had few problems with the previous connection I used before I moved).  I&#039;m constantly being disconnected and have gaps in almost every single hand.  I rarely play there these days because it&#039;s too frustrating with my current set-up.  I can surf the net and play f-tilt or p-stars with no problems while simultaneously struggling to play on bodog (I struggle even when I&#039;m exclusively connected to Bodog).  I&#039;m not sure what the problem is, but it&#039;s discouraging when I have a decent hand and have it auto-folded because I can&#039;t respond in a timely manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Bodog a lot.  It was the first site that I used real money on.  I can&#8217;t compare to sportsbook, but I do play at Full tilt and poker Stars.  Full tilt to me seems to have an unusually large number of bad beats.  I&#8217;ve received and delivered them at what seems to me to be clearly above the expected percentages.  Poker stars is fine.  I&#8217;m not overly impressed with the set-up or software, but my wifi handles it just fine and the &#8220;poker&#8221; has &#8220;added up&#8221; as would normally be expected.  </p>
<p>That leads to my current problem with Bodog.  Their software is the best IMO, but it really bogs down in a MAJOR way.  My wifi just can&#8217;t handle it (I had few problems with the previous connection I used before I moved).  I&#8217;m constantly being disconnected and have gaps in almost every single hand.  I rarely play there these days because it&#8217;s too frustrating with my current set-up.  I can surf the net and play f-tilt or p-stars with no problems while simultaneously struggling to play on bodog (I struggle even when I&#8217;m exclusively connected to Bodog).  I&#8217;m not sure what the problem is, but it&#8217;s discouraging when I have a decent hand and have it auto-folded because I can&#8217;t respond in a timely manner.</p>
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		<title>By: opieopie111/sry4badbeat</title>
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		<dc:creator>opieopie111/sry4badbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bodog poker rocks.i took 98th in a freeroll for 2$ then turned it into 2000$ took a payout 10 days later check in mail sweet.the bad i just about lost the 500$ i had left ......back 2  the drawing board!been at this for 4 years gl all players</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bodog poker rocks.i took 98th in a freeroll for 2$ then turned it into 2000$ took a payout 10 days later check in mail sweet.the bad i just about lost the 500$ i had left &#8230;&#8230;back 2  the drawing board!been at this for 4 years gl all players</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello All,
I quit playing on Bodog. Too many bad beats. I feel the play is more realistic at FT and PS. Hey KAP let me know if you start a league on one of the other sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello All,<br />
I quit playing on Bodog. Too many bad beats. I feel the play is more realistic at FT and PS. Hey KAP let me know if you start a league on one of the other sites.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like bodog as well.  The SNG&#039;s are longer because now the blinds are timed instead of by a set amount of hands.  I was a little unsure of the new software, but it has grown on me.  But overall I think it is one of the best for US players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like bodog as well.  The SNG&#8217;s are longer because now the blinds are timed instead of by a set amount of hands.  I was a little unsure of the new software, but it has grown on me.  But overall I think it is one of the best for US players.</p>
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